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Inventing problems to avoid problems Country Club Thread
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u/DellSalami Mar 23 '23
I’m reminded of Wyoming (I think) banning trans high schoolers from participating in women’s sports, and then someone mentioned that there are like four trans athletes in the state this would affect
It’s never a good sign when people are so hateful against such a small minority
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u/TimTamDeliciousness ☑️ Mar 23 '23
This is the most important point, planned authoritarian regimes assess which group will have the least likely amount of allies, they know they can no longer start with the usual suspects. Then people get caught up in the idea that it’s truly about that particular group of people and not another reiteration of “At first they came for….”
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u/myri_ Mar 23 '23
Exactly. It doesn’t end with trans people. It never ends with one group.
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u/ChelseaVictorious Mar 23 '23
"Fun" fact: the world's first institute of sexology was burned by the Nazis.
Republicans bristle when you call them Nazis but they are literally on the exact same path, by choice and with the benefit of historical hindsight.
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u/TheVermonster Mar 23 '23
I remember reading something that Fox News has run over 180 pieces about collegiate trans athletes. Yet, in a study run by a third party, they could only find nine trans athletes. The Fox News pieces make it sound as though men are pretending to be women so they can win female sports competitions. When in actuality, none of the nine trans athletes are particularly good. None of them had broken or set any records, in fact, none had even made it to the podium.
Arkansas and Alabama both have enacted some of the most strict anti-trans rules in sports. Yet, in the past 10 years there has not been one trans athlete in either state.
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u/xxpen15mightierxx Mar 23 '23
It’s never a good sign when people are so hateful against such a small minority
They start with small minorities and then work up to bigger minorities, historically speaking.
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u/jadedea Mar 23 '23
Yes, but they're probably thinking it's starting off small now, but in a year or too, it'll be in the hundreds, and less of a minority. Which would then be an issue because now a majority group is being prevented from participating. It's really a damned if you, damned if you don't from their perspective. It's not going to end well either way.
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u/MissLilum Mar 23 '23
I remember seeing somewhere that right winged individuals think there are like 20x more trans people than there actually are
They also seem to be unable to google things so their history knowledge can be summed up as what they were taught in history class when they weren’t napping
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u/lycheebobatea Mar 23 '23
honestly people act like google just doesn’t exist, especially when arguing for a point. they always say “well how come x?” and the answer is always, “let’s look it up”. then they hit you with the “oh, you trust google?” as if google wrote every source on the planet. they’re anti-education, anti-intellectual, and love prosecution complexes and conspiracy theories.
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u/Clanstantine Mar 23 '23
If they trusted reliable online sources then that means information is at their fingertips. Information at their fingertips means that they would find information that proves them wrong. Information that's proving them wrong would mean they have to examine their viewpoints and reshape their own worldview. That's a lot of work and the easiest option is to just distrust everything that contradicts you.
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Mar 23 '23
Why bother to google something when media personalities give you all your talking points? It's a pattern you can see over and over. Fox News publishes bullshit story and the next day all the conservatives (who swear they don't watch Fox News) are spouting the same nonsense. It happens consistently, over and over like clockwork. From CRT to kitty litter in schools to the current attacks on teachers and trans folk as "groomers". The right wing media's ability to completely dictate what conservatives are thinking and talking about is amazing in a horrible way.
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u/fireblyxx Mar 23 '23
They summarily reject any source that isn't an opinion source on their side. Established newspapers, research papers, government statistics, doesn't matter, all fake. Only The Daily Wire is true news.
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u/fatbunyip Mar 23 '23
It's not really about trans people though.
The 2 trans people are just guinea pigs to see if they can do the same to anyone in that room they don't like.
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u/Greenthund3r ☑️ Mar 23 '23
100%
It’s all about control, and any minority that can’t fight back is a perfect scapegoat.
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u/lycheebobatea Mar 23 '23
when i read that, i scoffed and said “yeah right” and immediately went to google it. i’m… appalled. it’s true.
about a third of that ~20% are people who weren’t born here, which makes sense. that remaining ~14% is still horrifying… when you consider that these statistics include children (and considering immigrant children who should be receiving adequate ESL education, this is unacceptable), and that certain racial minorities tend to have higher rates of illiteracy (even if they aren’t first-gen immigrants), then it becomes all the more sinister.
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u/FakeHasselblad Mar 23 '23
It explains the vast numbers of people falling victim to scams and manipulation.
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u/Toast2Carnage ☑️ Mar 23 '23
My therapist years ago put this in perspective for me. I was living in DC and had grown up in CT. I don't know how we got there; but, we landed on education. I was amazed just how normal it was to run into people with Masters and PHDs, and feel pressure to get those myself. She pointed out that most of the country just barely gets past high school. All I've known is being in condensed areas where education is bountiful. She said there's probably more degrees in DC than there is in the entire state of Montana
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u/13aph Mar 23 '23
Honest to god. Have a buddy I play Xbox with. Met him when he was 15. I was 16. Dude has been mostly illiterate his entire life. Like dude cannot read. How the hell he manages to play games prior to narrator narrating everything is a mystery. I think he just trial and errored his way through everything. Which.. is just wild to think about. Even today at like 26. He’s only like.. 2nd grade literate.
He used to drop me gear to read descriptions and names to him. And he’d literally audibly try to sound things out occasionally. It’s just wild to me
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u/dh2215 Mar 23 '23
I was wondering if these were accurate. I wonder how they define “illiterate”. I don’t think I know a single person who doesn’t have even a very basic ability to read. I’m not dismissing the numbers, I’m just shocked
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u/HotButteredGlizzy Mar 23 '23
To my understanding, illiteracy is defined as lacking reading and or comprehension at a 4th grade level. Some folks cant really recognize letters, some cant blend them to make a word and only recognize sight words. And some can read a sentence but can't really explain what it means (like a word problem in math). Source: I was an ESL teacher for several years.
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u/Sohcahtoa82 Mar 23 '23
I have a friend of mine who might as well be illiterate. He just reads so damn slow. Probably about 1/4 of the speed of normal talking.
He doesn't have any other intellectual disabilities. English is his first and only language. I dunno if he just never read anything outside of school or what.
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u/butterisprettygood ☑️ Mar 23 '23
A tiny perspective but my best friend’s grandpa was illiterate. He might’ve been born somewhere around the 30s but I’m not sure, I just know that he was old lol sorry.
He was from very, very rural Virginia so I imagine they’re from places like that. Red states or red counties/areas where education just isn’t priority - helping on a farm and providing for family was.
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u/pvhs2008 ☑️ Mar 23 '23
I have a cousin who is illiterate. Public education in his area (central Florida) just wasn’t that great and my aunt/uncle were very hands off. It got to the point where the school just wanted to offload him, so my other aunt started to home school him like her own daughters. Unfortunately, he was checked out by the time he was 16 and after being told repeatedly by his own school that reading wouldn’t happen for him. My aunt really tried but it’s an uphill battle not helped by his peers/father that are snarky about education. Just a terribly sad situation.
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u/IAmSorry4MyBehaviour Mar 23 '23
Im a bit older, and also in canada, but when i was in H.S. I knew a couple illiterate kids. I remember because one wanted me to help set him up with MSN messenger and i was like "bro, you gotta read and write for that" and he got really upset about it lol.
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u/HenkieVV Mar 23 '23
I had a look, and there's some different definitions, but mostly what they're measuring is the ability to extract information from texts in a meaningful way. So mostly these people might be able to read their name, but can't understand a random newspaper article.
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u/CHEEZE_BAGS Mar 23 '23
you would be surprised at how many people make it through life just recognizing words as symbols
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u/Stanley--Nickels Mar 23 '23
I think the part where 90% of people get shot each year is way more interesting.
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u/pinniped1 Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
Holup, you had me until every day 1 person is shot.
By the end of 13 months, everybody has been shot.
I'd also be interested in the numbers of people who are financially secure and have high-quality easy to use health insurance that fully covers all of their doctors and medicine. Both of those numbers are stupid low.
The overwhelming majority of Americans have worse and more expensive health coverage than they did 20 years ago and are nowhere near financial security. We define "insured" and "poverty" with such a low bar that it conceals the depth of our dystopia.
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u/IanInElPaso Mar 23 '23
Yeah, it’s about 1 in a million shot every day. 1 in 3,000 over a year. I agree with the sentiment of the post but having something so easily debunkable makes the whole thing seem questionable.
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u/teb1987 Mar 23 '23
Nah, couple rich guys and their family got away with all the shooting.
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u/HilariousConsequence Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
The numbers in this tweet are all wrong, but in totally weird ways: lack of health insurance is underestimated, whereas gun crime is overestimated thousands of times over.
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u/Merchantmarx Mar 23 '23
What a sad country
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Mar 23 '23
It’s not the whole country. It’s not even half the country.
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u/tehtris ☑️ Mar 23 '23
This is something that I am not sure if outsiders truly understand. Not all of us are straight up evil. But if you watch the news about u.s. it sorta looks like we are.
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u/professionaldog1984 Mar 23 '23
I mean the same thing happened in nazi germany or any other fascist state. Its almost never a majority, at least at first. At a certain tipping point we are all going to become morally responsible to stop this. It wouldn't be hard to argue that point is a long way behind us either.
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u/boss413 Mar 23 '23
In the '30s those actively supporting Fascists in Europe never got above about a third, while those actively against them stayed at about a third. The tough part to remember is that the third in the middle just wanted their lives to remain stable and went along with whatever they thought would allow that to happen.
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u/townshiprebellion24 ☑️ Mar 23 '23
The GOP has no platform other than to be contrarian or tax cuts for the wealthy. They needed a new boogie man(person).
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Mar 23 '23
What’s stunning is this is 100% accurate and always has been. They have 2 policies, tax cuts and deregulating everything for the billionaire ownership class, full stop.
Lol, and yet the imbeciles who keep voting for them neber realize this. When the GOP does occasionally get full power of all 3 branches, they immediate inaction these 2 things…and then that’s it. Nothing.
Problem now is they can’t even sell trickle down to their own base anymore, so they REALLY have absolutely nothing to offer except white victimhood.
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u/Cyclonitron Mar 23 '23
In addition to having more than it's share of the bigots, a lot of GOP voters are just straight lazy. They have an issue with some state law or local ordinance but instead of working to get that law changed they just go "guv'mint bad!" so they don't put in anymore thought than that.
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u/doggscube Mar 23 '23
They replaced segregation with abortion to keep their voting bloc. Now they’ve won on abortion so while they’re going to further restrict that, they need something to rile up their base
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u/Greenthund3r ☑️ Mar 23 '23
Oh come, they have another platform…
Sell those tax cuts for the wealthy as “helping the little guy” or “protecting freedom.”
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u/_dauntless Mar 23 '23
I mean he starts with some real statistics, but the "1 person is shot" would mean 825000 people are shot in the US every day. Without that stat it's pretty accurate.
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u/Crispylake Mar 23 '23
1 out of 400 people are shot every day? With that average you would be getting shot almost once a year. Makes me question some of the other numbers.
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u/vendetta2115 Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 23 '23
I agree with the sentiment but the “everyday [sic] at least 1 person is shot” metric is way off if we’re using 400 people to represent the entire U.S. population of 330 million.
329 Americans are injured by firearms each day. About 124 of them die from their injuries each day. That means that 1 in 2,748 Americans are shot and 1 in 7,291 are killed by a firearm each year, or about 1 in 1 million shot and 1 in 2.6 million killed each day.
Framing it as 1 in 400 is an odd choice.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a serious issue that needs to be addressed, but the other representations are fairly accurate, so it’s weird how this one is so far away from reality.
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u/foxy-coxy ☑️ Mar 23 '23
Odds are that the two trans people are also one of the 36 without health insurance and the 48 living in poverty.
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u/DynoMenace Mar 23 '23
They aren't trying to ignore problems, they're going after the exact "problems" they want to go after. Make no mistake, it's not about deflection or protecting kids or whatever, it's about trans erasure and outright eradication, and it isn't going to stop at trans people.
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u/ModsArePaidShillz Mar 23 '23
Except it’d actually be like .08 people are trans or something. People tend to forget just how much of a statistically insignificant issue it is for people to be dedicating really any amount of time to being upset about. Stop following and engaging with reactionary conservative media and they essentially disappear if you’re not seeking them out.
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Mar 23 '23
How many are fine as fuck, though?
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u/AgitatingMyDots ☑️ Mar 23 '23
Both the trans folks, 3/4 of the untreated mentally ill, none of the republicans.
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u/yourfavoriteblackguy ☑️ Mar 23 '23
You forgot that for some reason an extra person owns 99.9% of the money, and is telling the 400 what to be mad about.
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u/Lookalikemike ☑️ Mar 23 '23
Factor in the guy who owns the building where the room is situated. He is charging twice the normal rental rate. Using the absolute least expensive, fatty foods for catering; which is also at a higher rate, and his staff sees none of the profit. Seems the toilet is also backing up, but he’s set up buckets in back. Oh yeah, he’s also the main speaker at the event telling you of the American scourge that is the LGBTQ community.
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u/Justmesquewe Mar 23 '23
How on earth are we a developed country when there's roughly 20 percent US citizens are illiterate?
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u/cheesehuahuas Mar 23 '23
I don't understand why "trans kids in school sports" needs legislation. Why do lawmakers need to spend time regulating something that affects like 8 kids in their state.
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u/KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ ☑️ Mar 23 '23
The issue in this analogy is that 1 person in that room is very wealthy and very connected, and they are able to persuade a large majority of the mentally ill people and illiterate people that their problem is trans people. And because of the lack of mental care and education, they are unable to realize that their problem isn't the 60 black people in the room, or the 20 or so Hispanic people, or the couple Jewish people, it's that one person.
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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor ☑️ Mar 23 '23
A few are going to to start dying in childbirth or suffer severe health complications supposedly in the name of life.
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u/PsyrusTheGreat ☑️ BHM Donor Mar 23 '23
Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. Why? because there are fewer trans people than them. They are bullies, they honestly seem to be happier making other people unhappy, than themselves happy.
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u/OfficialDCShepard Mar 23 '23
Thank you. I hate being treated like a political punching bag for simply being nonbinary.
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u/Ferrousity ☑️ Mar 23 '23
Duh, how else you think they make sure folks don't think about all that shit you just listed? Create a scapegoat so people's frustrations are misplaced. Ain't shit changed since Johnson. "If you give a man someone to look down on, he'll vote for you" or something to that effect
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u/JDKett ☑️ Mar 23 '23
Im about to lead the 48 and 85 into the promise land where theres strippers and beer for everyone.
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u/NecroInevitable Mar 23 '23
To be fair, they are also actively searching out the communists, that seems like a decent amount of work.
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u/Avenger772 ☑️ Mar 23 '23
Florida is trying to ban all gender affirming care.
Which also bans all hormonal treatment for EVERYONE. Cancer treatment for EVERYONE. Mastectomies for EVERYONE.
They are idiots. They don't care about America. And would happily burn this country to ground as long as it takes everyone else with them.
Never let them ever say they are the party of freedom ever again.
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u/hi_im_eros Mar 23 '23
This perspective is completely lost to majority of GOP voters