r/clevercomebacks Mar 24 '23

Yeah but…. Oh

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u/dethaxe Mar 24 '23

As someone who lost their wife to cancer and hearing church folks say that that's part of God's plan, I can strongly say that's bullshit.

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u/Ninja_gorrila Mar 24 '23

Sorry about your wife man

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u/anthonyg1500 Mar 24 '23

As someone who lost his mom to cancer saying “it’s Gods plan” or “everything happens for a reason” is the fastest way to get me to leave a conversation

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u/RomanCokes Mar 24 '23

The best response is a swift face slap and then just raise your hands shouting “GOD’S PLAN. God’s Plan.”

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u/TinyYul Mar 25 '23

"He spoke to me! He said smite the wicked tongued!". Ezpz

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u/Less-Secretary-6382 Mar 24 '23

Il very sorry for ur loss. As someone who goes to Church and has lost someone to cancer, this is categorically wrong and disturbing to say. Fuck that. No one is meant to die in such a horrible way, and God certainly doesn’t intend for it

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u/ssuuh Mar 24 '23

And apparently she is not strong enough or omnipotent enough to protect the ones you love.

So why do you believe in her than?

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u/Neutral_Error Mar 25 '23

It would be fine to not have an all-powerful, all-seeing God. That would explain plenty of things. The problem is, they do nothing but claim their God can do no wrong.

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u/ssuuh Mar 26 '23

It's an option true.

But normally people believe in a all mighty one who made all of us.

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u/Awful-Male Mar 25 '23

Everyone copes in their own way. As someone who watched my Dad rot and die in a year from it, it’s hard to fathom how anyone could see that pain having any “purpose”, but they do…

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u/DJTen Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

I want to answer you not to convince you to believe in God but because I feel like every time someone says this and they get a reply, it's just cruel and no better than a troll.

Even most people who call themselves Christians don't know what they are talking about when talk about "God's Plan". There is nothing that says that God picks out specific people. That he decided who's going to get cancer and who's going to suffer and who's going to prosper. What we, Christians, do know is that God created the world and created mankind and because we are created in his image we have free will. God loves us but he doesn't use his power to force anyone to do anything. He honors our free will even when we use it to do evil things. He honors our free will when we choose to not believe in him and when we lay the results of our sins at his feet. He created a world that is capable of running without his influence. It runs on a cycle of life and death. It constantly renews itself. Disease and sickness are a part of that cycle.

What the plan is, is very simple. There will be pain and tragedy but every person should treat those around themselves as they would like to be treated. That every other human being is your neighbor and you should help them when they are in trouble and they should help you. So when tragedy strikes you, everyone around should rally to your aid and if the problem can be solved, it will be solved because you'll have so many people in your corner helping you find the answer. And if the problem can't solve then those same people should cover you in a blanket of support and caring. That won't stop the sorrow but it will help to lighten your burden and continue on and heal. The plan is for us to learn to that every life is important and we should live our lives to love and care for those near and far.

So far, humanity has refused to learn this lesson and instead we are selfish and greedy and do not give damn that person next door, let alone that person in another country, in person of another race or that person of another religion.

As a Christian, the best thing I can do is help you with your troubles and through my efforts show God's love. So if you have sorrows and you would like someone to listen to them, it would be my honor to do so. My condolences on your loss.

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u/elementgermanium Mar 24 '23

If every life is important, a good first step is to adhere to that principle himself and not throw them away like that.

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u/jaspex11 Mar 24 '23

The old all "powerful, responsible for everything, except for that specific thing that upset you that we can blame on free will" argument.

A drunk driver is charged for killing someone in a crash because the driver knew the risk, and chose to create that dangerous situation by driving intoxicated regardless of the risks to others unable to affect his own choice or actions. They are responsible. Much the same way that an omniscient, omnipotent being that created the entirety of the universe and every thing and concept within it is ultimately responsible for the consequences it has created. Good, evil, indifferent, an omnipotent, omniscient being by its very definition knows all before it happens, and makes a decision to allow it to happen that way, indeed to make it happen that way. Or it isn't all powerful and all knowing, you can't have it both ways. God can't have created evil, then say evil isn't his fault because he didn't do the specific evil thing, he just let someone else do it. It's a cop out, a way to deflect away from complex and critical thought. Either its all god's fault so nothing is of consequence, or God is a kid with an ant farm that lost control of what's going on, and we inside the confines are on our own.

Or, you know, the simpler answer. God is a concept created by humans to help them understand the world and ultimately control themselves within it. A concept that is at best an obsolete and comfortable illusion, or at worst a manipulative weapon used to oppress, control, manipulate, and take advantage of others. Morality and ethics don't require an invisible authority figure promising rewards and punishments. They only require the decency to recognize that others value themselves as much or more than I value myself, and cooperation makes both our values increase.

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u/NightlyWry Mar 24 '23

What we do know is that God created the world and created mankind and because we are created in his image we have free will.

Uh...no. WE do not know that. You believe that, without evidence, without actually knowing anything. You feel it. Your feelings are not truth or fact. It's still gross to speak the way you do to people who are hurting. You aren't correct. You just think you know more than other people...even other Christians. Super weird.

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u/DJTen Mar 25 '23

When I said what we know, I meant it's what we, who are Christians, know. I should have been more clear about that. I do realize it's not a scientific fact.

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u/NightlyWry Mar 25 '23

Reminder...you don't know it either. You feel it emotionally. That's it.

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u/DJTen Mar 25 '23

I don't think that belief and faith are emotions. But I also don't count beliefs as facts. Facts can be proven. Belief and faith are spiritual. I know God created the world, but I don't expect others to accept that as fact.

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u/NightlyWry Mar 25 '23

Belief and faith are absolutely feelings. They aren't based in fact or in reality. Spirituality is literally a "feeling" that there is something bigger.

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u/ssuuh Mar 24 '23

That's a stupid way iof still believing in a god.

She is either good and omnipotent and could give us all a good live without killing people we love or she is not worth it to pray to in the first place.

And because the world is not good it's not worth it to pray to her.

And what fucking omnipotent being needs prayer anyway?

How fucking egoistic.

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u/DJTen Mar 25 '23

I never said God had nothing to do with bad things. Since I believe God created everything, he created things we consider bad. I, also, believe the bad things that are natural have a purpose. Bad things like poverty, war, crime, etc. are man-made things. So when people ask, "Why did God let those terrorists kill all those people?" What should be asking is "Why did we, mankind, allow it to happen?"

As for prayer, it is useful for us. It's pretty much religious meditation. God already knows what we need. Prayer is our way of connecting with God. Taking that moment to tune out the world and focus on our spiritual connection with Him.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

How is it bS?

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u/dethaxe Mar 24 '23

you're heartless

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u/Street-Tea-4965 Mar 24 '23

Brah... I don't care who you are.... When a guy called "dethaxe" says your heartless, you need to stop for a moment and re-evaluate your situation.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Reread my comment to ensure there were no typos or something, but no.

Dramatic response to a simple question to say the least. Non the less there is a God and RIP to your loved one

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u/TheSquishiestMitten Mar 24 '23

What's God's plan for the children he gave cancer to? Does he love them, too?

Sorry, but I won't accept the story that God created everything and he loves all his creation. You say he's all-knowing, which means he knew from the beginning that not only cancer, AIDS, and diabetes would happen, but also that some of his children would persecute, torture, kill, and enslave his other children in His name, but he chooses to do nothing about it. He allowed the Holocaust to happen and didn't bother to lift a finger. Your god is a fairy tale and you're a fool for believing any of it.

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u/Skullobanger Mar 24 '23

I think the problem is you think: 1. God is all loving. He isn't. It is a Christian claim which goes against their own books. He loves those that seek his love. 2. This life is the end. In fact this is the beginning. Eternal life exists and justice will be established then 3. You blame God when it is the actions of man that causes suffering. Evil is an evidence and consequence of free will. If God stopped all evil then there is no free evil. 4. You presume to know what God's plan is.

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u/i-opener Mar 24 '23
  1. You presume to know what God's plan is.

The irony here is palpable!

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u/Skullobanger Apr 03 '23

Because you think i dont know? Why do you assume God is evil if he exists? Why must he do things your way?

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

If I knew God’s plan I’d be in Vegas. Also death and pain is a part of life, it’s a very childish and POV to equate your suffering or any suffering with the belief that there is no God

Also another silly belief that ppl who don’t believe in God need to stop holding on to is that God is an entity that is 100% good. I believe nothing is perfect including God.

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u/i-opener Mar 24 '23

death and pain is a part of life, it’s a very childish and POV to equate your suffering or any suffer with the belief that there is no God

death and pain is a part of life, it’s a very childish and POV to equate your suffering or any suffer(-ing) with the belief that there is a God.

Remember, the burden of proof rests on those that are making the positive claim. You want to believe in whatever fairy tales you want, be my guest. But if you want to have a rational conversation with other folks, and you insist that your fairy tale is true, then you need to demonstrate it.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Here the beauty of believing in a higher power, those that get it, get it and those that don’t, don’t. Literally everything is God. But since you want you hang on to your depression and anger from everyone dying , I’ll let you continue

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u/i-opener Mar 24 '23

Here the beauty of believing in a higher power, those that get it, get it and those that don’t, don’t

Here's the beauty of reason. There are those that get it, and those that think you're nuts.

Literally everything is God.

Literally, you have no concept of the word literally. You have demonstrated nothing, literally.

I'll let you continue.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

If all you’re gonna do is quote me at least put the quotes it, like literally Oh feel free to quote that, literally

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u/RomanCokes Mar 24 '23

Actually this is your best response. The concept of God and His plan are best utilized to explain the unexplainable, find comfort in grief, rid of depression and anger, find hope, etc. But please take a seat when someone doesn’t believe what you believe and finds no comfort in pinning their misfortune on some ultimate power in the sky.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

I said I would let you continue as in I will spend no time trying to convince you to belief what I believe. Also I repeatedly said ppl are entitled to believe what they want. But by all means continue to rewrite history

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u/TheSquishiestMitten Mar 24 '23

Christianity operates specifically on the premise that God is perfect and infallible. You're already going against Christianity by saying that God isn't perfect.

Even if God isn't perfect, the being that snapped his fingers and created all of existence could certainly have decided to not give children cancer, but he didn't. Why do you suppose he did that?

The god who created everything also decided to give us free will, but also created hell in case we break his rules or don't love him. Why do you suppose that is?

The god who created everything out of nothing could have made his one and only son appear magically in the middle of the busiest of city centers, thus leaving no doubt as to his divinity.... But, he didn't. He came down in the middle of the night to fuck some dudes underage wife and then he allowed that son to fight his way thru life and ultimately be murdered by the state, ostensibly to save us all from..... Well, from himself. Why do you suppose he chose that route?

A better explanation, perhaps, is that it's all bullshit that was used exclusively to exert control over gullible fools. You can fight other humans, but you can't fight a magical sky daddy.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Read the first sentence and didn’t waste my time with the rest, literally just typed that to me God is not perfect. If you can’t comprehend that then the conversation is not needed. Also who said I was a Christian. Who said the higher power I speak of is in anyway related to the entity mentioned in the Bible. Stop assuming

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

Then where does your belief in God come from? You're just making up your own idea of God, and then believing in it? And you claim you are in the position of this enlightenment about God? Where does it come from? Do you believe God speaks to you?

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

Just as everyone interpreted religious writing differently so have I interpreted what I choose to believe in.

Keep in my in no way am I asking you to believe in what I believe in, in fact I am telling you if you don’t it’s fine and in no way will I try to change your beliefs. However given the level of pain and anger you are hanging on to support you belief that a god doesn’t exist at this point truly why do you care?

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

Death and suffering, according to the Bible, is the result of mankind sinning. An eternal punishment for the actions of some distant ancestor doing something bad. Sounds like a psychopath "god".

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Why do you keep referring g to the Bible? Are you comprehending anything I’m typing ?

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

No, I'm not, because you sound insane, made up your own god, and then decided to believe in it.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Thank you for finally acknowledging that you are not comprehending. I will now block you as to avoid the Groundhogs day inevitability to this conversation

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u/JimileeWatt Mar 24 '23

Man you are one of the worst kinds of religious people. Read the fucking room dude jesus

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

I’m gonna set my alarm to the year 67899999985487548745

By then hopefully you will be able to have an original thought

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u/JimileeWatt Mar 24 '23

Shut up ya roaster

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

All that time traveling and nothing

Let’s try again alarm set to 7897848575757575757575758583536474747

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u/DrewPeacock719 Mar 24 '23

I believe nothing is perfect including God.

As if anyone gives a shit what you believe.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Clearly you do, hence the quote. Continue my child

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u/elementgermanium Mar 24 '23

Who, pray tell, MADE death and pain a part of life?

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u/AutomaticLynx9407 Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

They will reincarnate with new lives, and their souls will be weary but wise.

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

Oh, so it's okay to torture people if there's a reward at the end for them?

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

Well god tortures people, by having created us with full knowledge of being tortured, right? How is that not god? And I am high, actually.

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

Non the less there is a God

Prove it.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Answered this several comments ago

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

Lol, no you didn't.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Even for the internet your level of anger is extreme. Would you like a snicker

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u/brandimariee6 Mar 24 '23

If there’s a god when my confessed, pedophile father was raised by a pastor and his Bible-obsessed wife, he’s not someone that I trust

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

I belief there is a God/ a higher being. If you don’t that ‘s fine. If it means more to you to hang on to you pain and reject the belief of a high power I will in no way stop you. It is your choice and your choice alone to choose to enjoy your life or drown in your pain.

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u/brandimariee6 Mar 24 '23

You don’t need to be heartless to other people because of what you believe. You believe your religion, I’ll believe what I do. I’m not nasty to people online solely because of my beliefs. The end.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Stop exaggerating things I was not heartless. Stop creating fake victims to imaginary bullies.

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u/ever-right Mar 24 '23

Nonetheless, there is no god and theists are fucking morons.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

You are entitled to your belief.

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u/wired1984 Mar 24 '23

You’re more or less telling someone that their wife is a necessary sacrifice for the greater good when his family has to bare all the pain and you’re scot free to continue proselytizing. Endure what they’ve endured and maybe we should listen

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Show me that quote.

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u/RomanCokes Mar 24 '23

Explain how it is NOT BS without using a book a few ancient dudes created.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

Is there a purpose to life?

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u/RomanCokes Mar 24 '23

Of course! But none of us know it.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

So if there is a purpose, then there clearly was a reason for her life and her demise. End of story. And if there isn’t a purpose then death should mean nothing to you. But you can’t have it both ways where there is no God thus no meaning to life but somehow a life with no meaning is causing all this pain.

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u/RomanCokes Mar 24 '23

Gods plan was for you to STFU and here you are rejecting God.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

You don’t even believe in God so you know nothing of its plan, try again

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u/RomanCokes Mar 24 '23

You continue to reject God’s plan and I find that most hilarious.

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

You continue to talk of plans from a God you don’t believe in, please take your pills

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u/danceswithwool Mar 24 '23

Whatever purpose you give it.

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u/Unnoble_Savage Mar 24 '23

Mine is the god of fire, and everything burns

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u/Atharvious Mar 24 '23

Magma, fire bhagwan, the all, the one and the none

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u/Unnoble_Savage Mar 24 '23

A Redditor of class.

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u/Some-Newspaper7014 Mar 24 '23

Lifts rock, makes stuff, the sleeping hawk, the ticking clock

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u/AbyssDragonNamielle Mar 24 '23

LET CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

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u/pizzaking95 Mar 24 '23

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ Mar 24 '23

Death by fire is the purest death of all.

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u/ReplacementNo9874 Mar 24 '23

Old Testament

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u/Unnoble_Savage Mar 24 '23

Trans Jæsus ;-)

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u/swordofra Mar 24 '23

Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want You to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

... But He loves you!

‐ George Carlin. RIP

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u/TheSquishiestMitten Mar 24 '23

You left out the rest of the quote.

"... He loves you. And he needs money."

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u/brandimariee6 Mar 24 '23

I read all of that in his voice! I would love to hear what he has to say about the world today, but I’m glad he doesn’t have to suffer through it

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u/pogUrick Mar 24 '23

He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!

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u/Berserkllama88 Mar 24 '23

Clearly it's just some good old tough love...

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u/Oaky_smoky Mar 25 '23

Opening lines of zeitgeist!!

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u/caffeine_man Mar 24 '23

He's seems to forget that there were times God had to be not kind at all. The Old Testament is filled with some good examples.

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u/KaijyuAboutTown Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

And when they apologize for the Old Testament, stating the New Testament supersedes the ‘unpleasant’ parts, remind them that the only place were same sex intercourse is mentioned and condemned is in the Old Testament in Leviticus 18. So clearly that’s been over written and LBGTQ enjoy the full support of the churches… oh well.

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u/GiftGrouchy Mar 26 '23

No, no, no. That part wasn’t superseded. Just the parts that say what I do is wrong where. The stuff that condemns what I don’t like/agree with are still completely relevant

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u/Taeyx Mar 24 '23

you know i agree with him. i remember one time, i was taken hostage, and they said “do what we say, or you’ll go to a place to be tortured for all of eternity.” they were the most loving people i ever met.

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u/the-dogsox Mar 24 '23

Also pretty busy giving aids to African babies. Maybe that’s why he’s never got time to help me find my car keys.

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u/SkullRunner Mar 24 '23

Naa, always too busy blessing both sides of pro sports games to win.

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u/Ferropexola Mar 24 '23

Both teams: praying for the win.

God: wanting them to hurry up and start the damn game.

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u/SilverWolfIMHP76 Mar 24 '23

In 2020, there were around 4,963 choking deaths in the United States.

Who ever designed the human breathing/food intake system has no idea how much of a mistake that was. Other creatures have much better systems like Whales who have a mouth and a blow hole for breathing.

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u/NanatsuDIO Mar 24 '23

hey, i blow hoes too /s

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u/IForgotThePassIUsed Mar 24 '23

Loving me with that sweet sweet damnation and eternal fire because I eat Shellfish and have Gay friends.

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u/brandimariee6 Mar 24 '23

Mmm shellfish, my absolute favorite food. They’re worth the eternal fire

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u/Alien_Bird Mar 28 '23

It has "hell" in it, doesn't it?

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u/Mission_Tax_3032 Mar 24 '23

"god doesnt make mistakes"

alphabetical list of diseases, mental illnesses and parasites

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u/VoltasPistol Mar 24 '23

alphabetical list of things that aren't strictly speaking diseases but are just the body seemingly working as intended but cause everything from age-related disability to untimely death

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u/KaiserHohenzollernV Mar 24 '23

It was just a prank

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u/MartianGuard Mar 24 '23

And so is this! pulls lever and you fall into the firey depths for all eternity ROFL

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u/green_jp Mar 24 '23

I'd laugh so hard if I were Noah tbh, imagine some voice from the sky just shows up outta nowhere and says "build a fucking boat for a pair of every single animal there is". I'd just say "hell nah, just go ahead and flood it all, do your thing."

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u/KaijyuAboutTown Mar 24 '23

I always wonder if these people have actually read the Bible and understood it. It’s a horror story. Genocide, matricide, patricide, infanticide, regicide, rape, incest, kidnapping, rampant misogyny (let the women be silent!)… all in there… all directed by God. How about the long list of death penalties, many for ‘infractions’ that are committed routinely in today’s society?

Here’s the heads up. IF YOU CHERRY PICK VERSES FROM THE BIBLE, YOUR FAITH IS BASED ON YOUR OWN PREFERENCES AND PREJUDICES, NOT THE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD AS PRESENTED BY THE BIBLE.

Nope, not interested. Best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible.

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u/Crooked_Cock Mar 24 '23

What do you mean? Rampant misogyny and death penalties for minor offenses are like 90% of the substance that makes up most conservative/religious fundamentalist political platforms, they’re just as hateful as their god and actively follow his teachings, those teachings being to make “non-believers” suffer

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u/KaijyuAboutTown Mar 24 '23

I’ll rephrase (my paraphrase of Mark Twain)… “Best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible if you actually give a damn about the people around you. If all you want to do is promote your own hatred of others, the Bible can easily provide you a context”

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u/Amnosia_carrier Mar 24 '23

Oh yeah! The invisible sky wizard who, let’s see… Wiped two cities of the map for being too gay and turned a woman to salt for looking back at the burning wreckage, Had his followers slaughter an entire people down to the last infant because they could “corrupt” his “chosen,” Flooded the entire world because humanity was being shitty, and how could we forget the time he killed a man just for touching the ark of the covenant when it was about to fall into the mud. Yep! He FUCKING LOVES YOU!

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u/KaiserHohenzollernV Mar 24 '23

He destroyed those cities because of rape mobs

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u/tmdblya Mar 24 '23

So good to hear a Christian say we should love people the way God made them, cuz God don’t make mistakes! /s

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u/alexbro001 Mar 24 '23

This is also the guy who blamed Hurricane Katrina on gay people. I’m curious how that fits in with this tweet

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u/ever-right Mar 24 '23

Source of light? Shit it's the source of all life.

You couldn't have plants without it. No plants, no animals that eat plants. No animals that eat plants, no animals that eat animals.

And yeah, it gives us fucking cancer.

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u/ChaoticDetectivePech Mar 25 '23

Don't forget all the things we need like water that also kill us

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u/ghostsintherafters Mar 24 '23

I love how God is too wise to make a mistake, and yet they choose to go out and harass gay and trans people on a daily basis as if they're an abomination from God. So I ask which one is it? Did your God fuck up or not?

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u/ItWasAllADream434 Mar 24 '23

they will just tell you it’s free will and although god gave commandments free will would still be the reason those who choose to lived a ‘sinful” life

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u/mrbisonopolis Mar 24 '23

If that’s the case than people transitioning is part of Gods plan.

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u/BlueshineKB Mar 24 '23

I love that one tweet where its like “atheists without a god how do u stay morally correct” or something and a guy responds “if god is ur reason to be a good person, ur not a good person”

Just reminds me of how stupid christianity is

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u/phoenix14830 Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

Your God that is too wise to make a mistake makes gays, transgenders, cripples, pedophiles, etc which the people in your congregation have no problem voting for politicians who openly persecute these people. All of this while happily feeling morally righteous because they aren't the ones persecuted.

...and I don't mean to suggest the actions of pedophiles are moral or acceptable, but they don't choose the desires God gave them, they choose the actions they do or do not take. Wildly imperfect people from a perfect God?

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u/Crooked_Cock Mar 24 '23

too loving to be unkind

Kid named childhood leukemia:

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u/AutomaticLynx9407 Mar 24 '23

Literally anything in too great an amount will kill you

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u/nonsequiturnonsense Mar 24 '23

Too much love will kill you.

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u/AutomaticLynx9407 Mar 24 '23

Yeah if you eat it

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u/hehehuehue Mar 24 '23

Came here to say this, great amount of cure can kill.

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u/AutomaticLynx9407 Mar 24 '23

Which cure?

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u/hehehuehue Mar 24 '23

Anything that cures? ibuprofen, insulin etc..

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u/MeatTornadoGold Mar 24 '23

Oh, so when a 4 year old has leukemia? Don't these ducks say it's part of his plan? Morons.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

don't forget how the oxygen we need to breathe to survive slowly kills us

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u/kaffie27 Mar 24 '23

Athiests everywhere rolling their eyes.

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u/generic90sdude Mar 24 '23

Almighty God can only be kind, M'kay?

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u/Knight-Creep Mar 24 '23

“To loving to be unkind”?! Has this guy read the Old Testament? At ALL?!

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u/Cranzeeman Mar 24 '23

mfer wears glasses and talks about a "perfect creator" -.-

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u/Serious_Ad4950 Mar 25 '23

Dude let us sin and we sinned so hard he had to kill himself to make it right again.

I’ll take things that can be tested and repeated, thanks.

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u/RusselShakelford Mar 25 '23

Life is terminal

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u/HomieScaringMusic Mar 24 '23

Ackshyually God gave us the ozone layer, nature’s sunscreen. We gave ourselves greenhouse gasses. God gave us brains so we could figure out what we were doing wrong and shift to renewables, and instead we elected- you know what I’ll just stop

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u/TheBlackCat13 Mar 24 '23

Sunburns existed long before the hole in the ozone.

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u/zebediabo Mar 25 '23

Our source of light runs the entirety of the planet with no cost, and we're precisely where we need to be to not end up burnt or frozen. Our atmosphere and magnetic poles protect us from lethal radiation and destructive magnetic pulses. It's a pretty awesome setup.

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u/ChaoticDetectivePech Mar 25 '23

Ok but that's not true cuz atoms, but also even if it was we'd have just evolved different life under different circumstances

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u/zebediabo Mar 25 '23

Not true because of atoms?

That's definitely not true. Without specific conditions, life cannot exist. That's true whether you believe it evolved or was created. It's why every other planet we've found is utterly dead. Too much radiation, and life dies. Not enough heat, and life dies. Too much heat, and life dies. The wrong planet composition, and life dies. There's a multitude of factors that need to align for life to exist. Those requirements only increase for more complex life. Earth is pretty awesome. It's like a life sanctuary in a hostile universe.

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u/ChaoticDetectivePech Mar 25 '23

Atoms run the entirety of life, more specifically electrons, without electrons none of this world be possible because nothing would ever react with anything else, hence, no sun, no water, no life, atoms are the most basic of basic. Without them nothing would exist

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u/zebediabo Mar 25 '23

I feel like you missed my point entirely. Let me put it another way: the sun's atoms give energy to the earth's atoms. Without the sun's atoms, our atoms would never form what we call life.

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u/ChaoticDetectivePech Mar 25 '23

The atoms that make up earth are also the same atoms that make up the sun

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u/zebediabo Mar 25 '23

No, the sun's atoms are the sun's, and the earth's are the earth's. It's not that complicated. Without the sun's atoms, we wouldn't be alive.

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u/ChaoticDetectivePech Mar 25 '23

Well there are only a set number of elements, and the sun is made up of the same stuff as the earth

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u/zebediabo Mar 25 '23

Yes, but the sun's atoms are organized in a way that allows naturally occurring nuclear fusion, from which all life on earth draws energy, directly or indirectly. The sun powers the earth. Its gravity even keeps us flying through space on a safe and steady course.

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u/ChaoticDetectivePech Mar 25 '23

Idk if you know this but we'd still be moving if it wasn't for the sun, and yes but bold of you to assume that atoms wouldn't just organize a different way if the sun wasn't there

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u/UnKind4you Mar 24 '23

Oh hey its me

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u/nuancednotion Mar 24 '23

any God who would make a John Hagee is definitely drunk and evil

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u/Kipguy Mar 24 '23

NOT if you dress appropriately.

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u/Pink_Sky_ Mar 24 '23

Ya well, even if god is real, and he is doin’ all that work, it don’t mean he’s workin’ for you…

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u/tayt087x Mar 24 '23

Melee nipples

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u/BoomTown1873 Mar 25 '23

The rivers are full of crocodile nasties and He who made kittens put snakes in the grass. He's a lover of life but a player of pawns

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u/Edwolt Mar 25 '23

To be fair, the hole in ozone layer has a important role in skin cancer.

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u/HibouOwll Mar 26 '23

"too wise to make a mistake" Then why do you were glasses?

"too loving to be unkind" Why is there Hell then?