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u/piewca_apokalipsy Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22
Hawking was hella ateist.
In his book Brief history of Time he spent considerable amount of time explaining why universe doesn't need God to exist
So yeah if Catholic good is real he's in hell right now
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u/AstronautInTheLotion Feb 11 '22
yep, proving god didn't create this universe was kinda one of his missions in life.
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u/MasterFrost01 Feb 11 '22
I mean you can't prove god didn't create the universe because you can always say "god (being all powerful) made it look like he didn't create the universe". All you can say that divinity is unnecessary to explain the universe and has no measurable action upon it.
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u/AstronautInTheLotion Feb 11 '22
that is a really good concept...
i mean, our understanding of the universe and God can actually co exist. but something so powerful that can modify and change space time in such a short amount of time (13 billion years) can only be possible if the simulation theory theory is true...
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u/baumpop Feb 11 '22
Reminder that 99% of the lifespan of the universe will be cold black and zero stars left. Alllife that will ever exist happens in the first 1%
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u/AstronautInTheLotion Feb 11 '22
its barely 1%,
I'll recommend you a youtube channel named 'melodysheep'... watch their timelapse of the future video... shit's some serious goosebumps stuff
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u/baumpop Feb 11 '22
I’ve seen it i was rounding way up for emphasis. It’s actually much smaller.
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u/AstronautInTheLotion Feb 11 '22
aight...
melodysheep has some awesome videos tho... i really loved the life beyond trilogy
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u/FabianGladwart Feb 12 '22
Thank you for bringing melodysheep to my attention, just sunk like 2 hours into his channel
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u/InvalidUserNemo Feb 11 '22
Well that might be the most productive 29 minutes I will have this weekend. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Feb 11 '22
After a certain amount of time won't it be cold and dark forever so technically the percentage is nearly 100% and the percentage of time for which there's actually "stuff" happening is like 0%?
The universe is basically one big chemical reaction right?
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u/Warpedme Feb 12 '22
I imagine the universe as an explosion. As it spreads it cools and goes dark as all the force and reaction gets dissipated, but we're still in the explodey part with sparks we call suns flying away and colliding with each other. It's currently not as chaotic and dense as when the explosion started and this is the tiny window that life can form before the everything is spread so thin that there is only darkness and cold .
It kind of explains the expansion of the universe too. It's my own take on the 'big bang' never ending, we're just in a more dispersed state of the bang.
Disclaimer: science and physics is only a hobby of mine and I am not an expert.
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u/WhiteSkyRising Feb 11 '22
But what if such an all powerful god generated the beginning and end, but started and stopped the movie for only the human chapter? Like how in games the backgrounds are generated but are invisible walled. I mean, with omnipotence in the picture, you can explain anything any way you want.
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u/samuraisam2113 Feb 11 '22
Yeah I never understood why people say the Big Bang theory disproves the existence of God. I don’t take genesis 1 literally when it says God created the heavens and the earth in 1 day, since God isn’t really bound by the concept of time. I think God caused the Big Bang, created man, and things went from there. Outside of that I don’t know if there’s any way to prove (or disprove) the existence of God, so that’s where I feel like Hawking’s logic falls apart.
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u/orangutan25 Feb 11 '22
The amount of time between the big bang and humanity being created is so vast compared to humanity being created and today. Also, humans are literally so insignificant compared to the big bang. Like why is everyone so hung up on the fact that humans exist when literally planets, stars, and black holes also exist that have way more importance on the scale of the universe
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u/samuraisam2113 Feb 11 '22
Not sure what point you’re making with the time, since I said according to a lot of Christians at least, God is outside of time so the time between everything happening isn’t too relevant to me.
I think the reason that humans are the focus is because humans (and all of Earth) are unique in the universe. (Personal opinion:) According to the Bible, the earth was made for humans, and the universe to express God’s glory. I think earth and the universe play those roles well. Earth is perfect for sustaining life for humanity, with everything we need to live and live well. And the universe’s vastness, intricacies, and everything about all the stars and planets and galaxies is so amazing, and even more amazing to me that God created it all.
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u/SaveYourEyes Feb 11 '22
Where is "outside of time"? And do you have evidence of this place?
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u/samuraisam2113 Feb 11 '22
Considering that I believe God existed before everything was created, there’s not really a good way to describe that place. Outside of time is a broad term but this “time” referring to before the “beginning” in Genesis 1:1 could also be described as eternity past. In contrast to eternity future, seen at the end of the Bible. I reference the Bible a lot because that’s where my entire faith comes from. I don’t really know what to say if you don’t believe in it haha so I hope that’s okay with you.
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u/AstronautInTheLotion Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22
Hawking kinda wrote 2-3 entire book on why his logic works...
the thing you are talking about is decoding the Bible for clues. that's something Isaac Newton tried for years and failed...
although I love the idea of science and God to coexist in the same universe.
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u/Dexzilla72 Feb 11 '22
Another thing I struggle with is size. We are supposed to be made in his image. Meaning god is a bipedal ape just like us. Why make a universe so huge? What's the point of having something exist billions of light years away? He could have made the entire universe 8 light minutes wide and it wouldn't matter to us. Instead, he makes something so mind boggling large that he is insignificant size wise.
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u/samuraisam2113 Feb 11 '22
There might be a bit of a misunderstanding. At least according to my understanding, God is a spiritual being (John 4:24). I’m not sure if His size is comprehensible in the physical sense. When Jesus came as a man, he had the appearance of a man (rather than looking like a cat or a dog). When God came to earth in the Old Testament, before Jesus was born, he also looked like a man (Genesis 32:22-23 and Hosea 12:3-4). Though He is also the one who created the heavens and the earth, is the one who fills heaven and earth (Jeremiah 23:23-24).
I guess it could be the same way large statues are made in the image of Man. Sure, the Statue of Liberty is made in man’s image and according to his likeness. It does not mean that people are that large. In a similar way, us being small does not mean God is also small.
A key thing I’ve enjoyed about Genesis 1:26 is how God making man in His image and according to His likeness means more than man’s appearance. I think people are born with a heart to love another person, which is why marriage has been around since man was created. In the same way, God loves his church, and will eventually marry her. (Ephesians 5:25, Revelation 21:9-10)
Edit: forgot to answer the original point. I think the idea may have been to make the universe so incomprehensibly large that it puts God’s size (and glory perhaps) into perspective, as the person who created this incomprehensibly large universe.
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u/SaveYourEyes Feb 11 '22
Of course you don't know any of this and only wish it to be true
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u/MaleIguanas Feb 12 '22
Fun fact, when the Big Bang theory was first proposed it was widely rejected in the scientific community for lining up too much with christian theology and apologetics.
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u/Human-Grapefruit1762 Feb 11 '22
Our understanding of the universe can't really co exist with something that brakes all the rules we understand about the universe.
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u/RavenousToaster Feb 12 '22
Yeah… it’s an un falsifiable claim with infinite explanatory power so post hoc is rampant. As far as I’m concerned, the burden of proof is on the theist to prove god did it/exists.
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u/Tow_117_2042_Gravoc Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22
You don’t need to disprove god, to disprove god.
You just need to prove that something always existed. Therefore, the canvas predates god.
Scientifically proving an eternal something, and being able to explain how that eternal something formed into our universe and us, disproves god in itself.
Religious texts refer to god as an eternal being beyond this plane of existence. If science can find and prove the mechanism. It indicates that ALL of this is god. Or in other words, an eternal mechanism that functions without the need of higher intention, or divinity. It just is, and religions definition of god merely is a summary of the mechanism that results in us.
It leaves the only viable argument for religions that we live inside of god, rather than created by god. They will never be able to prove this. Science might be able to prove and explain an eternal something. That’s the goal. The goal of using religions own definition of god, as a definitive disqualifier for god, and definitive proof of science.
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u/RedFive2005 Feb 11 '22
Well you can’t prove He didn’t make it because intelligent design, the universe is ultimately ordered and has systems and rules, God made those rules and systems and set them in motion
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u/Culturedcivet Feb 11 '22
By the same Logic you can't prove Odin didn't make it either or The Titans or well yeah any of the other thousand upon thousands of gods to exist
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u/RedFive2005 Feb 11 '22
Yah, difference being, I think that my religions right, not those ones, and if someone wanna think Odin made the universe, go ahead.
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u/Culturedcivet Feb 11 '22
Everyone who is religious thinks their religion is right, that is kind of the point of it, but all those rules can be proven without any god no problem, the only time a higher being needs to exist is to instigate the Big Bang after that it is abundantly clear zero deities have been involved
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u/MasterFrost01 Feb 11 '22
You're right, you can't prove or disprove divinity or faith, but as I said divinity isn't necessary in any of our models for the universe. There's also no reason to state you do or don't need divinity to have rules and systems, that's backwards reasoning because we ourselves are the result of those rules and systems (after all, if the universe didn't exist as it does we wouldn't be able to ponder why we don't exist)
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u/SaveYourEyes Feb 11 '22
You simply do not know this. It's only your assertion
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u/RedFive2005 Feb 11 '22
What I said is what the concept of intelligent design is, and you are right, and it is my assertion
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u/usernamesarehard1979 Feb 12 '22
God didn’t have to create the universe, but he got bored and did it. But if he didn’t, it probably would have happened anyway by accident.
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Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22
sort of. He explains that through math we can predict everything after the big bang
but before the big bang, all of our understanding, rules of physics, laws of the universe would break, therefore we can't even fathom what was before the big bang. It's impossible with our current understanding/tools to even describe what it was like. He mentions that if there is a higher power, their involvement would have been at that point.
Everything after, observable, does not indicate any higher power involvement, and that's kind of the only part that matters because it's impossible to measure anything before the big bang.
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u/apolloxer Feb 11 '22
He also says that the sentence "before the Big Bang" makes about as much sense as "south of the South Pole". Time starts with the Big Bang, there is no "before".
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u/ThePu55yDestr0yr Feb 11 '22
The only complaint I have with the Big Bang is if there’s no way to know what happens before the Big Bang, how would anyone know if time doesn’t exist before the Big Bang.
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u/SureSure1 Feb 11 '22
Space and time go hand in hand, if no space no time
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u/ThePu55yDestr0yr Feb 11 '22
Yeah but what if there was also space before the big bang.
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u/SureSure1 Feb 11 '22
Eh, Im sure a dude who u couldn’t runaway from Math is much smarter than us.
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u/GreeksWorld Feb 11 '22
Reminder that the theory of the Big Bang was created by Georges Lemaitre, a catholic priest. Only recently has scientific discovery been perceived as antithetical to theology. The studies of astronomy and meteorology were part and parcel with the search for immaterial divinity.
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u/danbrown_notauthor Feb 11 '22
And not all Christians believe that the Big Bang theory is antithetical to theology. The official doctrine of the Catholic Church is to accept the Big Bang.
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u/elispotato Feb 11 '22
Does that mean god is the being that switched on the simulation?
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u/CormacMcCopy Feb 11 '22
Why even call that "God" if it doesn't match any of the current descriptions of God? Even deism ascribes more personality and involvement to the concept than that of a mere "switch-flipper." And, at the end of the day, upon what evidence would we posit a "God" there to flip the switch? What evidence exists, aside from the existence of the universe itself, which is the thing trying to be explained? That's using the explanandum as the explanans. It doesn't work that way.
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Feb 11 '22
Exactly! Disproving one thing does not prove an unrelated thing.
"1+1=3"
"Ha! No it's not. You're wrong. And, since you're wrong, 1+1 automatically equals 7!"
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u/elonsghost Feb 11 '22
True story, it was actually Pete the janitor that accidentally bumped the switch. He said he was sorry.
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u/emmittthenervend Feb 12 '22
So if Pete had been watching where he was going I wouldn't have bills to pay.
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u/phantomreader42 Feb 11 '22
Why even call that "God" if it doesn't match any of the current descriptions of God?
Because death cultists are desperate for any excuse to shove their imaginary friend into whatever gaps they can find, without any consideration of how bad the fit is or how pitifully weak and worthless it makes their invisible sky monster.
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Very possibly could be. Unfortunately we can't tell now, and may never be able to.
IMO, the universe is too big for there not to be a higher power at some point. It's also so big that we would definitely be insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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u/CormacMcCopy Feb 11 '22
IMO, the universe is too big for there not to be a higher power at some point.
You do understand how incredibly weak this argument is, right? "It beggars my imagination, and, thus, it must require a divinity to explain it. After all, if I can't grasp it without positing a deity, no one can!"
I mean, when asked, "What evidence do you think there is for the existence of God?" would you really answer with, "Well, the size of the universe, I guess"?
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u/TheFrenchSavage Feb 11 '22
One could argue that, given the size of the universe, and given that a god is for sale, we might very well be able to mortgage our universe to acquire said god.
Now, would that put all sentient species under a large amount of debt? Sure.
But think of the utility costs: omniscience, omnipresence, endless power ! No more need to harvest suns, just phone your local god representative and pray for your daily zetawhatt.3
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u/IrishAengus Feb 12 '22
Not sure why you would single out Catholics when there’s so many religions believe in the ‘creator’ and far more fervently than we do.
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u/GamerGriffin548 Feb 12 '22
But why though? Science has no place to start picking apart the religiously minded. This is why fights break out, can't we just keep the two separate ffs?
Also, Stephen wouldn't be in Hell. You go to Hell for breaking God's commandments, and Stephen never broke any.
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u/piewca_apokalipsy May 11 '22
Going to the church.
Using lord name in vain
Telling people that God does not exist
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u/FatStephen Feb 11 '22
Why did Franklin become such a shit ass?
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u/RainbowDarter Feb 11 '22
The only thing he has going for him is being the son of a well known evangelist and he doesn't believe in God himself.
So he has to try to work it because he really wants to be important and lived like his daddy.
His only alternative is to be some rando insurance salesman and live a normal life and that is not appealing.
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u/danceswithwool Feb 11 '22
The son of a well known evangelist that, in my opinion, was a very good example of what a Christian should be based on the Bible. I’m not religious but I can read. The contrast between the two is astounding. Like, how did you become such a intolerable fuck head with your dad right there as an example.
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u/RosencrantzIsNotDead Feb 11 '22
Billy Graham was a bigot and misogynist in a time when we celebrated those a bit more openly.
It’s not at all surprising to me that Franklins also an asshat.
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u/Bearence Feb 11 '22
Billy Graham was a bigot and a misogynist at a time when it was considered more acceptable but he also had a way of speaking that did not accentuate the negative over the positive. Franklin has a way of speaking where it's always accentuating the negative.
Billy was hard voice in, soft voice out. Franklin is hard voice out, soft voice in.
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u/revchewie Feb 11 '22
"how did you become such a intolerable fuck head with your dad right there as an example."
Being raised rich has a tendency to do that.
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u/True_Recommendation9 Feb 11 '22
Because he was raised by one.
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u/FatStephen Feb 11 '22
How so?
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u/AirSetzer Feb 11 '22
You are aware who his father is right? I would imagine his dad's wiki article likely has a controversial section that touches on some of the most well-known aspects of his history.
The short version (from someone who lived through much of his hate) he's the type of christian that makes other christians ashamed to be associated, fueled by hate & the old school "fire & brimstone" fear mongering.
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u/Bearence Feb 11 '22 •
his dad's wiki article likely has a controversial section
Well, we're on the internet so we can actually look at what his wiki says And you are right, it does have a section called "Controversial Views". What's interesting to note is that in each example of a controversial view, it talks about how he either softened his view, changed it completely, apologized when he was shown to be wrong, or refused to let his personal view interfere with what others did. We don't see any of that with his son, who seems to have no working concept of humility whatsoever.
I am also someone who is old enough to remember Billy Graham. And I don't remember him being fuelled by hate, at least not in comparison to the other evangelicals of the time.
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u/ZSCroft Feb 11 '22
Is that Lindsey grahams kid?
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u/SeekerSpock32 Feb 11 '22
Billy Graham, not Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham is very much still alive.
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u/ZSCroft Feb 11 '22
Shit you’re right I’m tripping lmao never heard of Billy I’ll check him out
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u/FatStephen Feb 11 '22
Billy Graham had a big part in desegregation, although he openly admit not as big as he should have. He was good friends w/ MLK. That's why I'm trying to understand what kinda shit you're talking about Billy.
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u/ZSCroft Feb 11 '22
I literally didn’t know who he was before this thread so I haven’t said anything about him at all
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u/sulaymanf Feb 11 '22
To me that’s always been the case. Then again I’m a Muslim and he’s had nothing but hatred for me and my kind.
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u/The_Wizard_z Feb 11 '22
Both God and Satan joined hands to roast this fella
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u/mjedwin13 Feb 11 '22
Well it’s one of the few things god and satan share is their enjoyment for punishing religious hypocrites
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Wasn't god against killing people willy nilly, then proceeded to kill basically the entire population via flooding
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u/Rolix_Rubix Feb 11 '22 •
We could write an entire book of God's hypocrisies. Oh Wait...
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A book? You mean several! Oh wait...
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u/commonEraPractices Feb 11 '22
If I tell you that it's wrong for you to hit people, so you assume that I'm not going to hit you. But then I hit you, have I lied? I said that you can't hit people.
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u/Supermancheese123 Feb 11 '22
1 Corinthians 13:4-5: Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
By the Bible's own definition of love. The christian god is not love
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u/commonEraPractices Feb 11 '22
I can play the devil's advocate on this one.
If God has always been, he exists in all of time, so god cannot be patient or inpatient. God can't be envious as there is nothing he does not have, if he was boastful we would certainly know about his existence, pride in this sense means to be overestimating ones own worth, a monotheistic god can't be proud, as his value can not be overestimated. I don't see how he could dishonor anyone, if God was self-serving we'd have no free will (which, good luck proving if you have any), easily angered is relative and subjective, he could've reacted rashly or when he got angry it was after a lot of restraint, how do you measure a god's ease into emotions or let alone if a god has emotions, or that his actions were merely our interpretation of his actions into something we can understand so we can share the stories. Finally, there's no proof that he keeps a record or that Hell exists.
But I agree, god in pop culture could not be love, especially if you compare a god to a human.
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u/Supermancheese123 Feb 11 '22
the way you phrased things reminds me of how religious people use mental gymnastics to justify their beliefs. makes me think you used to be one. (just a side note) im going to rebuttal but just for the hell of it.
anyway, as far being patient. the time span of our universe at most is nothing but a blink of the eye for a being that supposed to be eternal. so the fact that he got mad at all at humans in our time of existence shows an extreme lack of patience.
the god of the bible made the earth and its inhabitants to boast about how awesome he is... if that isn't prideful i don't know what is.
i find it dishonorable to put people who dont know anything in a situation to test them. and the consequence is so bad that it literally hurts everyone that comes after them. but im just a mere human so why should my thoughts matter.
i can't see how you could say he wasn't self serving as literally everything was made by him and he can control EVERYTHING... so that means that anytime he gets served he is serving his self...
easily angered... again if he got angered in a time frame of at most a blink of a eye... dude got some serious anger issues.
he literally flooding the entire earth cause people wont obey him... compare that humans and its pretty hard to say that god is good at all.
sin is literally a record of wrong doing...
well, that was easy.
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u/Scripter765 Feb 11 '22
On the final point: There's also no proof that god exists, you can't really use the proof argument without sounding like a hypocrite. Although some people do insist that there is proof of god, i suppose, but you probably already know the quality of their evidence.
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u/phantomreader42 Feb 11 '22
But that's from a part of the bible that christians don't bother to read. Which is to say that it's from a part of the bible.
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u/Scripter765 Feb 11 '22
You technically haven't lied, but you still are kind of an ace hole.
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u/commonEraPractices Feb 11 '22
Yes, but not a hypocrite.
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u/Scripter765 Feb 11 '22
Correct.
But the posters above in the tree probably meant it as premise to derive conclusion "god isn't good", for which either premise "god is a hypocrite" or "god is kind of an ace hole" works.
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u/commonEraPractices Feb 11 '22
Only if there is no after life, or that there is an afterlife and a Hell and everyone in the flood was sent to Hell. Or else, that's like saying the a game developer is an ace hole for removing a character from a series of chapters.
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u/Sir_Tokenhale Feb 11 '22
I mean I tell my cats they can't have milk but then I have milk. Am I lying? No not at all. Those are their rules not mine. I'm not religious. But the point of a god is that they're beyond our comprehension. You can't judge something you can't even understand.
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u/coderinbeta Feb 11 '22
Not to mention he basically let the devil torture Job. For what? He just wants to test his faith or whatever. Or I think it was a bet or something. Either way, yikes.
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u/Light_Beard Feb 11 '22
Wasn't god against killing people willy nilly, then proceeded to kill basically the entire population via flooding
The Apostles:
"HOLY CRAP! Judaism is nice, but this creator god they came up with is just such an ass! How do we get people to join our NEW monotheistic religion? I know! Let's make him a lot nicer and say he sacrificed himself for us!"
"But we already have this whole book about "the god", we can't just ADD to it!?"
"We'll call it... THE NEW TESTAMENT! And it will be all loving and caring and shit!"
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Feb 11 '22
Didn't jesus approve of some lady cleaning his feet with her hair or something like that lol.
Screw it. New new testament!
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u/Light_Beard Feb 11 '22
Joseph Smith:
"New new testament! I like it! But can we add a part for the Native Americans we found since then? Also that title is bad. Gonna need a new one. "The Book of... something" "
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u/abqguardian Feb 11 '22
The other way around actually. God was kill happy in the old testament, then changed his mind and was all about "peace and love" in the new testament
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u/dyanaprajna2020 Feb 11 '22
Damn.
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u/Ecyrb2182535 Feb 11 '22
Damn.
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u/Browncoatinabox Feb 11 '22
Damn.
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u/Thaggedhi_ledhu Feb 11 '22
Damn.
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u/HalfDecentFarmer69 Feb 11 '22
Damn.
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u/thedeuce545 Feb 11 '22
I’m starting to think the person running the God account isn’t actually God…
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u/girthking42069 Feb 11 '22
Literally not even clever lol. Some shit you'd read on Xbox live dms
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His father, Billy Graham was not that bad. In 1953 he integrated his revival meetings and once bailed MLK out of jail. His legacy has been tarnished by his children and their hypocritical evangelism.
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u/-SasquatchTheGreat- Feb 11 '22
This is not clever or a comeback. But then, nothing on this sub ever is
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u/conflictednerd99 Feb 11 '22
Then leave? Why stay here and complain?
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u/CormacMcCopy Feb 11 '22
Wouldn't it make far more sense for everyone misusing the subreddit to leave instead?
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u/KaiHeNo Feb 11 '22
Not sure how the three lamest dorks I've ever seen arguing constitutes a twitter W
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Feb 11 '22
Sheesh, a bit harsh yea? "Your dad is burning in hell" why would you ever need to say this to anyone? Especially to someone you know believes in that stuff
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u/Tandian Feb 11 '22
Because his dad was exactly what Jesus said against religion. That family used it as a money gathering scam.
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Feb 11 '22
ah, I'm not exactly caught up on events. I thought it was just some random fan of Hawking who was hoping steven's soul wasn't damned, lol.
Fuck the hypocrites.
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u/angry_baptist Feb 11 '22
Where is the clever in this comeback? Someone from r/antiwork must be running this sub.
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u/Scripter765 Feb 11 '22
I fail to see the connection. Why would it be antiwork?
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u/bnvcxvnfxgdvbgf Feb 11 '22
In his quest for knowledge, religion was irrelevant to him. In "A brief history of time," he expressed himself clearly.
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u/JCSTexas Feb 11 '22
“… we have one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe and for that I am extremely grateful.” - Stephen Hawkin https://youtu.be/1zblTCsThDE
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u/Rebuffedtax614 Feb 12 '22
Twitter has those moments where the replies are some of the funniest things you see, too bad the rest of Twitter is garbage
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u/Blackwolfe47 Feb 12 '22
This make me burst out laughing, god sometimes the internet can be awesome
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u/nooneknowswerealldog Feb 11 '22
Why don't Christians use the actual name when they talk about the god that created the universe and everything in it? Is it so hard to pronounce Brahma?
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because Brahma is the first god in the hindu religion, which isn't Christianity.
Now let me ask you, why would Christians call their god by the same name that Hindu's call their god? are you saying they are the same?
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u/nooneknowswerealldog Feb 11 '22
This was a poor joke on my part: sort of lampooning the types of Christians Franklin Graham is by noting that if there is a god that created everything, the Abrahamic religions don’t have a monopoly on that belief, so you have to specify.
But that didn’t come across because it was a poorly thought out joke on my part.
Please ignore me.
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u/JoyeuxMuffin Feb 11 '22
Because God's name is unknown? Do you think Allah is a name, too?
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u/VoraciousFollower Feb 11 '22
I’m sure that he’s happy that he didn’t waste his life believing in a fairytale. P.S. I’m also sure that if god were real...he wouldn’t approve of people taunting others after their death.
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u/urixl Feb 11 '22
This made me follow TheTweetOfGod
He/she is hilarious.
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u/TheolympiansYT Feb 11 '22
*They. Gender neutral term that's shorter to write and is more inclusive
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Feb 11 '22
Assumptions don't end the world lmao, yes its inclusiveness use a gender neutral term, but its not the end of the world
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u/DarkReign2011 Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22
It never ceases to amaze me just how many Bible thumping retards there still are in the world. We literally have super computers in our pockets and what we learn about the universe grows every year, but somehow a huge portion of the population is still convinced that magical sky daddies and fairytales are fucking real. It's unbelievable.
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u/bflet48 Feb 11 '22
Most people grow out of this phase when their 14, but the rest congregate and circlejerk on reddit about their misplaced superiority.
Grow up dude. You're not brave. You're not edgy.
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u/Tow_117_2042_Gravoc Feb 11 '22
Welcome to the global cult of normality. Crazy ass ideas and traditions being carried and normalized generation after generation, because that’s just the way it’s been.
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u/Dry-Kangaroo-8542 Feb 11 '22
His wife was Christian. He was informed.
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u/AstronautInTheLotion Feb 11 '22
and they both loved to share their own view on the existance of the universe. She was a PhD in medival spanish peotry
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u/hollyhockpink Feb 11 '22
LOL! This is GOLD!!
Franklin is such a piece of shit and is the walking definition of everything that is wrong about these fake christians.
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u/theBarefootedBastard Feb 11 '22
Why is it clever to confirm a statement while insulting them?
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u/RepeatReal6568 Feb 11 '22
It’s good to see old acquaintances reunited in a good cause